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09/06/2020 04:17:03
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juan martin "elproblema"
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Wassup people.. i collected all the amateur records of the most known boxers in 3dboxing.
the thing is that all boxers in history of 3dboxing fought wimp in their record, the ONLY one in history who has a full record against real people is TROUBLE (never fought wimp not even in the novices)
so i counted all the real fights till every record hit the 70 wins against real opposition (cause technically if u hit the 70 wins u turn pro and if u comeback u already a ex pro fighting amateur, like a pro fighting the olympics lol, so we counting just amateur experience against real persons till get the real status as a pro without wimp) so check my list
1 TROUBLE 70-19-46ko-3d
2 BLAKE 70-42-37ko-18d
3 PROVODNIKOV 70-45-57ko-3d (my favorite boxer of 3dboxing)
4 BRUTE 70-46-61ko-3d
5 ANDREY 70-50-38ko-7d
6 TOMAS GORAL 70-53-57ko-3d
HONORABLE LIST (people who never hit the 70 wins against people but turned pro)
- BOBAH 29-6-15ko-1d (30 fights)
- LIL HGDOG 25-22-22ko-5d (52 fights)
>MOST HEAVY HANDED AMATEURS:
BRUTE 61 KO OF 70
PROVODNIKOV 57KO OF 70
TOMAS GORAL 57 OF 70
>CURIOSIDADES
*provodnikov and blake lost to wimp once
*the only one who could detrone trouble was bobah ( if we compare the 2 records when they reach 30 fights the record is almost the same bobah:29-6-15ko-1d. trouble: 29-6-20ko-1d.) trouble has more kos
so what u think?? let me know who boxer is not in the list and u would like to collect his data.
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09/06/2020 04:57:26
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juan martin "elproblema"
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almost All trouble losses are against good pros
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13/06/2020 16:37:24
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Bobah86
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nice job doing ?ll those st?tistics. I will give some comments th?t I think ?re import?nt to mention:
1: When I h?d turned ?m?teur there were not th?t much ?m?teurs to pl?y with ?nd I h?d consit?nt high winr?te in tr?inings ?g?inst current pro's ?lre?dy. So I did not see ?ny re?son to compete with ?m?teurs ?nymore, it would be just ? cherry picking. Th?t's the re?son I've boosted myself through wimp. I could of m?ke ?ltern?tive ?ccount if title of best ?m?teur would be my go?l but why ? It would be ? dirty move ?g?inst re?l ?m?teurs
2. trouble fought ex pro in ?m?teurs so we c?n just comp?re our records (pro record included) over?ll. If we expect th?t ju?nmi ?nd trouble ?re s?me peroson (just my thoughts, I don't try to judge ?nd expose ?nybody) it me?ns, th?t trouble ?lre?dy h?d profession?l boxing skills ?nd it w?s kind? of cherry picking to fight ?ll those ?m?teurs (excepting demoted pro). So I don't think this st?tistics c?n be c?lled legitim?te. Trouble w?s ?lre?dy ? pro in 2016 in this c?se.
3. I like Provodnikov too, his h?d kind? simill?r style to mine but utilized less clinch. It's s?d th?t he does not compete ?nymore
4. ?lso I h?ve ?nother st?tistics for you. Wh?t will you s?y ?bout 23 wins in ? r?w ?g?inst re?l pro guys ? 22 title defenses. I 'm retired to th?t point until somebody be?ts th?t so I will h?ve motiv?tion to come b?ck
5. ?nd I don't underst?nd why would s?y ?bout losing wimp if we don't count fights ?g?inst wimp. Is it just to m?ke those look b?d ?
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13/06/2020 16:40:00
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Bobah86
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sorry, my "a" ain't working
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14/06/2020 00:41:46
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juan martin "elproblema"
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you have a very good point there, is not that one is better than the other, its to compare the records witch is interesting, the wimp things and all that just extra things that surprise me lol now that im on pro lets make a interesting fight.
how bout bobah vs trouble? you down?
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14/06/2020 00:44:06
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juan martin "elproblema"
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u right on the juanmi trouble situation, the thing wit juanmi is that when i created juanmi nobody wants to play wit me back then cause the lag was way to worst than noww, so juanmi probably had like 100 fights wit wimp and "kakita" and sum friends from the same country so i decided to change to trouble
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14/06/2020 00:45:37
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juan martin "elproblema"
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i was not exposing nobody neither just to make it clear, i was just comparing records witout wimp.
23 issa good streak .. lets see if i can beat it
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14/06/2020 05:22:36
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Bobah86
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Just saying it's kinda of not legitimate topic calling yourself best amateur while being already pro I can make alt account too trying to beat your record. And then I will say "hey look at me, I am the best!" But I don't think it's a fair thing to other players
I really would like to box with you if connections is better. It would be extremely interesting fight
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14/06/2020 17:09:23
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juan martin "elproblema"
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cmoon u gon retire witout fightin trouble?? lets put a date, a champ can adapt to anything right???
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14/06/2020 17:10:25
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juan martin "elproblema"
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last time wasnt even slow and you say u didnt like the speed, lets put a date how bow dat
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14/06/2020 17:14:14
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juan martin "elproblema"
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u always say that but the reality is that many players has different conections, they cannot do nothing about it, u just gon not fight them? how about sunday 21june ??? siri salido (me) vs loma (bobah)
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14/06/2020 17:44:14
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juan martin "elproblema"
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i checked the juanmi record and he went 29-6-16ko-0d (35fights)
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14/06/2020 18:01:55
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juan martin "elproblema"
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And if u combine my amateur record as a person (juanmi &trouble) it will be all juanmi amateur fights against person (29-6-16ko-0d) plus first trouble fights till make it to 70 wins (41-8-30ko-1d) the record of me as a player fighting amateur will be 70-14-46ko-1d it still high in the ranking
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14/06/2020 18:02:30
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juan martin "elproblema"
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15/06/2020 12:49:23
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Bobah86
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okay, okay but you'd better brag about your real fights, cause you're really good IRL. But this thing with alternative account just make no sense from my point of view
I don't think we gonna box soon anyway cause I gonna disappear from the internet for 1year in 2 days. Compulsary recruitment in army. anyway it's way too laggy so I would not play in any case
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29/05/2021 12:21:59
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provo
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I'll be back.
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